“The music as an art form needs more time to express [than 3 minutes]. Like when you go to TV, and the first thing they tell you is keep the sentences very short and don’t go over 30 seconds. In 30 seconds you can say a slogan; you cannot make a sort of starting from here and getting to there. To be understood you need to make a development. In music, it’s exposition, development, recapitulation, getting back through the development section you understand why I started like that; you now have the elements to understand that.

“In a normal symphony, the first movement, Schumann, Brahms, Beethoven, we’re talking 15 minutes. I can reduce that to 2 minutes in a conversation. Less than that and either you do only the exposition or only the development, but [if the development] you start from where? The development of what? Or you go to the recapitulation you don’t have the elements to understand what I want to say deeply.

“The problem is not how to get people to the concert hall, it’s how to get any of us to listen to more than 3 minutes 5 minutes.”